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  nlander

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Posted: November 23 2010 at 3:15am | IP Logged Quote nlander

bikergunnut
 I still haven't found a picture placing where the mount came from in the Centerfire kits. [/QUOTE wrote:


Looks like bunker mounts.


Looks like bunker mounts.
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Did a little research on the besa and they were in 8mm too ! surprised that the Limmy's kept that caliber !!! After all it was a HUN caliber ! tried to order 2 barrels threw long mountain and found error on check out, will call them this morning. Should I do it ? I have 2 kits with 2 good finned shrouded barrels and if I get 2 more barrels should I order 2 more kits ?
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Posted: November 23 2010 at 4:03pm | IP Logged Quote CaptMax

This is what I always considered the bunker mount, I'm sure there was more than one variety of them.
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Posted: November 23 2010 at 9:37pm | IP Logged Quote Swiss

Royal Tiger Imports has the finned barrel jackets for $99.00 and the 250 round belts for $19.95. Belt and cans are also available.
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Posted: November 23 2010 at 10:19pm | IP Logged Quote Mastiff

bikergunnut wrote:

I found 28 barrels, act fast

http://www.longmountain.com/store/gun-parts/?productid=1430& amp; amp;continueShoppingPage=%2Fstore%2Fgun-parts%2F



Long Mountain now shows these on back-order.
I'm glad I ordered mine yesterday, it shipped today.
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Posted: November 23 2010 at 11:01pm | IP Logged Quote hill

With regard to welding back together a de-milled zb37 receiver. The scrap receiver sections would have to be aligned relative to the receivers axial centerline (With referance to the bolt passage), right. Then there is the issue of varying levels of hardness going from welded joints to non-welded sections of the receiver. Also at issue the welds themselves. Internal weld bubbles, voids, weld bead edge cracking, ect. Is the receiver on the zb37 non critical? Meaning there is no real stress on the receiver and perfect aliagnment and hardness are unimportant. Or do you need to be a master welder, Alignment and hardness guru. I am only asking because the weapon looks like a fun project. However i have always be under the impression that rewelded de-milled scrap receivers were to be used on nonfiring display weapons. I'm a good welder but not sure every weld i've done would pass an x-ray test. I've built a few rifles like the m14 and m1 carbine. These builds have included chamber reaming and headspacing. They all turned out well and are safe to shoot. Anyone have an opinion on the safety and reliability of a home built zb37 with a rewelded receiver?   At this point i am unsure if this proceedure is a good idea or not. I think i could build it and make it work but will it stay together and not blow my head off. Wouldn't the right way to build a receiver like this one be to make the receiver all one piece in the first place like they did when these were made new. I hope this build is safe because it looks like a fun winter project.
                Thanx, Hill........
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Posted: November 24 2010 at 12:02am | IP Logged Quote CaptMax

Swiss wrote:
Royal Tiger Imports has the finned barrel jackets for $99.00 and the 250 round belts for $19.95. Belt and cans are also available.


Swiss, Do you have a link for these belts? I couldn't find them on their website.   And are their ammo cans for the 308 or 8mm?
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PS. Gary I am looking forward to that photo of the five of them all finished up.
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Posted: November 24 2010 at 12:25am | IP Logged Quote weaponeer

The Store link to purchase them is as follows

http://www.weaponeer.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduc t=325

Sorry, Credit Cards only

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Posted: November 24 2010 at 12:49am | IP Logged Quote Mastiff

Here is a site that has pictures of the fortification ZB-37 model that CFS is selling. They also have a downloadable PDF of a Waffen SS manual on the ZB-37.     


 Too bad I don't read German.


http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/17115/start/0
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Mastiff wrote:
Here is a site that has pictures of the fortification ZB-37 model that CFS is selling. They also have a downloadable PDF of a Waffen SS manual on the ZB-37.     


 Too bad I don't read German.


http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/17115/start/0

Great resource and photos. (you can tell it's great because they reference weaponeer.net..  )

The PDF is from Orin (didn't know he had it), but with a little work it could be translated online.

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Posted: November 24 2010 at 1:39am | IP Logged Quote nlander

Sense this is only semi conversion parts and drawings/instructions for machining are any parts required to be sent in for conversion/machining?
What specific parts need to be modified which are not included in the conversion kit (besides the receiver) that require machining?
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Posted: November 24 2010 at 2:25am | IP Logged Quote weaponeer

nlander wrote:
Sense this is only semi conversion parts and drawings/instructions for machining are any parts required to be sent in for conversion/machining?
What specific parts need to be modified which are not included in the conversion kit (besides the receiver) that require machining?

No parts need to be sent in.  you still need to weld the receiver, and if you don't have a barrel, you will need one of those.

the other parts are covered in the first post, but it's bolt and bolt carrier need to be machined if I remember correctly, plus some minor fitting of parts, and I think you need to open the gas port on the barrel a little.

I have a ZB37, but no money for a kit...   lol

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Posted: November 24 2010 at 6:46am | IP Logged Quote Swiss

Here is the barrel jacket:

http://www.royaltigerimports.com/index.php?page=shop.product _details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=206&category_id=27&v mcchk=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2

Steve ran back to the warehouse and took a look for me to make sure it was like the photo. It was. I guess that Dewat meant removing the barrel.

Just in case you want to be sure, my tracking page shows a Dec. 1 delivery. I'll post it as soon as it arrives...if you want to wait.

I just decided to take the chance.
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ajmdreammg42 wrote:
OK call me stupid but long mountain has them listed as BESA barrels, are they the same, they look like they are.


Looks like LMO is back-ordered on the barrels
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Posted: November 26 2010 at 5:31pm | IP Logged Quote CaptMax

I'm interested to know if anyone receives their kit and it has waffenamt markings anywhere? My kit has the "chicken" stamp in a couple places, most often I have seen them on the bolts but they can be anywhere on the parts. Here is what I am referring to.
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Ive found a few little birdie stamps on my parts kit too....Will post pics too
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Fishpaw wrote:
Ive found a few little birdie stamps on my parts kit too....Will post pics too


Fishpaw, Was this a CFS kit?
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Ive found a few little birdie stamps on my parts kit too....Will post pics too
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Yep...My kit is from Centerfire and so far ive found at least one German bird stamp. Im looking for more. Will post a pic soon.
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 9:02pm | IP Logged Quote bikergunnut

My centerfire kit has one birdie so far, haven't cleaned it up much.

My LMO barrel didn't have the little square at the back of the breach.

Sarco has barrels, called this morning and they are $250,she didn't know how many they had:

http://www.sarcoinc.com/vz37besa.html

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Posted: November 29 2010 at 9:24pm | IP Logged Quote weaponeer

The ZB37 semi-auto conversion kits have been selling pretty good at $750. So far 6 kits have been sold.

Shipping is still slated as before Christmas.

Once again the link to purchase is here

http://www.weaponeer.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduc t=325&idcategory=

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