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Posted: April 27 2012 at 10:34pm | IP Logged Quote mace2364

Hi all,

Is anyone building AR-70s here? I saw a somewhat vague description of a build on another site not too long ago. The parts kits are still out there.
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Posted: April 28 2012 at 12:26am | IP Logged Quote Mech warrior

Here is a link to some info.

[COLOR=YELLOW] http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/notesmisc/ar70bu ild/pagear70build.shtml
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Who is selling parts kits for these?
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Here is one....

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=886270&a mp;filter=886270

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Posted: March 26 2013 at 10:35pm | IP Logged Quote backbencher

Looks like my lower from Numrich is in.  Not building an AR-70; I'm measuring it to see if an adapter could be crafted to fit an AR upper & buffer tube.  As far as I can tell, no one has ever tried such an adaptation.

Any tips on how to measure it?  Keep in mind I'm a recent Aggie Liberal Arts grad : )

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Nice looking rifle.  Would like to build one but are there any 80% or receiver flats for this kit?  If not are there any plans for the receiver.
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Wanna help me shoehorn a .22" LR AR upper on it?  Should have measurements in a few days.
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There are 80% receivers but i heard they were not the best.

Coldsteel solutions makes them.
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Posted: March 29 2013 at 12:41pm | IP Logged Quote backbencher

Numrich lower came in.  Measure tonight or tomorrow - pics & measurements to follow.  There are lots of holes I don't really need, but if anyone is interested, please post what else needs measurement & I will try to get to it this weekend.  If you post after this weekend, you have a very long wait.
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Posted: March 30 2013 at 12:47am | IP Logged Quote backbencher

Got it out of the box last night, wiped it down w/ Hoppes this evening, then marked the holes & took pics.  No measurements yet, but here are the pics, measurements to come:


























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Posted: March 31 2013 at 8:33pm | IP Logged Quote backbencher

Any ideas as to what I should use for a horizontal datum?



Most of the holes are easily measured to the top of the receiver.  The rear of the receiver is on a slight angle, and the front of it has a lovely curve.
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Do these rifles take AR15 mags? Or can they be modified to?

I might consider building one if they can.
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Posted: March 31 2013 at 9:04pm | IP Logged Quote backbencher

Hole dia & vertical measurements to follow, Hole pics 14 - 20:














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Posted: March 31 2013 at 9:17pm | IP Logged Quote backbencher

Oren, apparently there is an adapter for AR mags.  If you poke around, you'll find building the upper is somewhat difficult, involving drilling out numerous rivets & replacing them.

I'm of the thought that an adapter block can be made to fit this to an AR buffer that doesn't use a buffer tube - ie, a .22" LR, or one of the non-standard AR like uppers that move the action spring forward.  To mount a buffer tube on this lower would require cutting off part of the rear of the receiver, or an enormous trigger extension.
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Posted: March 31 2013 at 9:27pm | IP Logged Quote backbencher

Holes (mm)



# Diameter(h) Diameter(v) Datum(v) Datum(h)
1 7.01 7.01 4.52 8.11
2 5.05 4.9 9.83

3 3.85 4.02 24.3

4 7.11 7.05 11.3

5 10 10.05 13.83

6 7 7.1 4.54

7 6.31 6.44 24.63 10.28 D(v) outside of 7 to outside of 8
8 8.06 8.16 24.26 9.08
9 7.11 7.07 4.43

10 9 9.11 10.34

11 5.99 5.9 23.29

12 7.11 7.09 9

13 7.08 7.08 4.54 8.38
14 3.96 3.95 16.88

15 6.55 6.52 10.31

16 11.5 10.15 8.14

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18 3.51 3.52


19 3.54 3.54


20 3.18 3.11


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backbencher wrote:
Oren, apparently there is an adapter for AR mags.  If you poke around, you'll find building the upper is somewhat difficult, involving drilling out numerous rivets & replacing them.

I'm of the thought that an adapter block can be made to fit this to an AR buffer that doesn't use a buffer tube - ie, a .22" LR, or one of the non-standard AR like uppers that move the action spring forward.  To mount a buffer tube on this lower would require cutting off part of the rear of the receiver, or an enormous trigger extension.


I've been doing some research and found that the AR15 mag adapter is scarce, and does not work 100% of the time.

Since this uses a lug system to hold mags in, the chances of modifying the receiver to accept AR mags is pretty nill.

I'd say if you're looking to put any AR components on this, you should figure out if you can install some sort of sleeve or something in the mag well that will allow AR mags to work.
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 10:07am | IP Logged Quote backbencher

Oren, due to various mechanical interferences, the closest an AR upper sits is about 3/4" above the lower, which is where the adapter would have to be.  It's likely the mag catch would ride in the adapter.
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