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Posted: June 02 2012 at 8:04pm | IP Logged
Might be a bumb question but could I mount a pistol grip instead of a stock and then not worry about SBR rules? I should add is it legal? I don't want any issues with the brown shirts!
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Posted: June 02 2012 at 11:57pm | IP Logged
One of the issues i can see is that, when you do that, it has to be made in such a way as to NOT be able to accept a butstock at all......ever.
I hear what your saying, and i think that would be legal, IF you could figure out a way to do it like i said.
But, just because you mounted a pistol grip instead of the stock, if i could remove the wood and replace it with an original one then it is in violation.
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Posted: June 03 2012 at 3:17am | IP Logged
I'm still looking for information on the subject. I wonder how to thompson center gets away with the encore? Anything to do with it being a single shot?
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Posted: June 15 2012 at 8:16pm | IP Logged
What about the ruger charger it has a ten round mag or if you have the 25 or 50 with the pistol grip.
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Posted: July 13 2012 at 11:37pm | IP Logged
New to the forum I'm also stuck on my build pondering on rifle or pistol build most likely rifle
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Posted: July 16 2012 at 4:47pm | IP Logged
Below is a concept (sort of) for a M31 pistol build with more of the cool MP-40 look. The barrel and shroud would be shortened by 3'' or so for better looks and balance. AK grip. I'm putting this out to inspire some of you since I have a bunch of these kits to unload.
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Did some more dreaming - see the 2 pics below. This receiver is typical of the ones I have - actually a bit better than average since the nose piece lugs are intact. I ground out and inserted the FCG into the frame and CUT 2.5 " OUT OF THE SHROUD! This would bring the barrel back to about 10" which is about the same as my new PPS-43C ($270 at Classic Arms) shown for comparison. Cut the shroud just forward of the sling mount which eliminates one whole group of slots. I have always been impressed by the M31 shroud. It's big, heavy, and beautifully made. Also it lends a little of that sinister look - which we all love! I'm getting myself pumped up on this too.
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Posted: July 24 2012 at 1:31pm | IP Logged
Most C2 Manufactures get away with welding the stock in place in the close position. this makes it so a stock cannot be added, and the stock, cannot be opened. simple fix for the basic pistol build
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Posted: July 26 2012 at 7:34pm | IP Logged
The stock tang would be removed leaving 3 holes in the receiver which could be used for a pistol grip mount and conceivably could be converted back to a stock but what would be the point? The whole idea was to get rid of the stock to get something more intriguing. This would be a unique build.
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ATF recently ruled that a parts kit built as a pistol can be converted to a Rifle, then back to a pistol
Having the capability or parts to build an SBR is no longer constructive intent, the weapon must be built for a crime to be commited.
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Posted: February 18 2013 at 8:18pm | IP Logged
I have attached a picture of a M-31 with a 7 inch barrel, 2 inch shorter receiver, and pistol grip. It took a lot of mods to make it work right, but it was a fun project.
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