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Pitbull - a 9mm Luger homemade handgun
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Posted: April 15 2013 at 3:27am | IP Logged Quote orwell1984

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   First of all as a newbie I'd like to introduce myself and just say you „hello!” I'm not from US. My english is not perfect (that is what I'm sorry for ). I am a home-grown gunsmith and pyrotechnician. I live in one of the EU sh*tty and dumb post-coomunist country. Everything I'm doing is highly illegal here (that's the reason I'm using TOR to connect you). Neverthless, obtaining a gun or ammo here is close to a mirracle (either legally or not) that's why I have every law just in the ass and keep making everything even that what is found highly illegal in the US . So please do not perceive it as trolling or a way of provocation.

   I appreciate the level of skill in this forum very much what had made me motivated to join you and maybe contribute with you for arming the global society and fighting the upcoming NWO that is arising around the world on our eyes.

   My workshop equipment includes lathe, milling machine, electrical table metal saw, a grinder, welder, vertical table driller, files, reamers, dies, a professional vise for small detailed parts

Best Regard to Everybody!


Pitbull 1 -  a basic version

Work finished.

   Here I present a simple straight blowback 9mm handgun. This is not my first project but first in regards to real cartridges. Another projects will be presented as soon as possible. I'd like to you make opinions. Advices are always welcomed and highly appreciated


CARTRIDGE: 9x19 Parabellum (9mm Luger)

ACTION: straight blowback operated, SA

FEED SYSTEM: 8-rounds, Walther P1 magazines

WEIGHT (with fully loaded mag): 1540 g

SLIDE WEIGHT: 485 g

LENGHT: 180 mm

WIDTH: 30mm

BARREL LENGHT: 90 mm


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CONSTRUCTION DETAILS:

  • concept as simple as possible

  • rubber recoil buffer inside the slide

  • built mainly using welder and rivets to put in place the parts of the slide and frame

  • frame has been built from flat parts of steel and put together using rivets

  • barrel made out of 9mm barrel blank

  • uses straight blowback mode of action thanks to heavy slide

  • handgrip belongs to Browning HP pistol

  • free floating firing pin (like in Makarov pistol or SKS-type rifle)

  • made of standard construction steel (probably S235 EN10025 in European Standard http://www.leecosteel.com/products/en- standards-steel/s235.html )

  • hammer was made out stainless steel (I don't remember which type exactly it was)

  • slide has been made out of a square pipe and has got the front welded to

  • has no safety device except hammer "safe position" which make a gap between the hammer and the pin that makes the gun drop-safe

  • disconneting/semi-auto system is related to a screw placed into the bolt underside. The screw has a half of a head removed in order not to drop out while the gun is cycling

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Pitbull 2 - an upgraded and improved version

Work finished.


CARTRIDGE: 9x19 Parabellum (9mm Luger)

ACTION: straight blowback operated

FEED SYSTEM: 8-rounds, Walther P1 magazines

WEIGHT (with fully loaded mag): 1530 g

SLIDE WEIGHT: 500 g

LENGHT: 180 mm

WIDTH: 27 mm

BARREL LENGHT: 90 mm


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CONSTRUCTION DETAILS (only improvements towards the first version):

  • has no welding (slide milled and frame milled and riveted)

  • stable firing pin assisted with a spring

  • much better mag release

  • magwell is closed entirely (the two before has the magwell open from the front (it was made such a way becouse the lack of skill while making the first model )

  • external shapes and 'holes' are more neatly finished (the gun is ... let's say... more 'streamlined' )

  • a bit lighter than the first one

  • none of those pistol has ever jammed - they cycle with no problems at all (even with ammo reloaded with an improvised amateur technique)


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Posted: April 15 2013 at 8:09pm | IP Logged Quote Mech warrior

orwell1984, welcome! Thank you for the compliments to everyone here! You are welcome here and i did not perceive that as trolling or provocation. Thank you for sharing you builds and designs with us!

Stay safe!
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Posted: April 15 2013 at 8:48pm | IP Logged Quote Tanner Frisby

Mr. Goldstein, you have done a great job with this build, amazing craftsmanship.

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Posted: April 16 2013 at 3:38am | IP Logged Quote orwell1984

Big thanks for such a nice welcome!

I made one mistake above - the weight of loaded Pitbull 2 is 1350g
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 12:39pm | IP Logged Quote Fantomen

Very nice!
I might try making one of these when/if I get a milling machine.
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 3:25pm | IP Logged Quote milwiron

Mr. Orwell1984, you've got talent... and balls. Keep up the good work. My hat is off to you.
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good work,great pistol,,, try the sten mk11 or the mac-10 m11/9mm easy todo project,keep posting your projects
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Posted: April 17 2013 at 7:55pm | IP Logged Quote Slowhand

It is very encouraging to see these kinds of projects and the work and imagination that goes into them.  That is why this is such a great site knowing there are like minded people all over the world that believe as we do in freedom and innovation.  Kudos to Mr. Orwell1984.
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Posted: April 20 2013 at 12:08am | IP Logged Quote Rumsey

Hello, I was wondering if this could be sized up for .45 ACP, and if one could lengthen the barrel to 5-6" for a 'service' pistol deal.

If you could provide measurements for such a pistol, it'd be much appreciated, I have a few friends who can do CNC, and I can buy a barrel blank. I'd also like dimensions in detail for the original if you could.

Excellent work by the way, nice to see a slide on a semi-auto pistol and not a tube gun.
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Posted: April 20 2013 at 8:51pm | IP Logged Quote gundoctor

Great ingenuity in building up the parts from components using welder and rivets.
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For those who would like a better look at the same in pdf
all credits to orwell1984

C6F56_Pit_Bull_1.pdf

74A79_Pit_Bull_2.pdf
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Nice work on the PDFs, Sagitarii.  Good work on your part, and orwell1984's....
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Posted: May 06 2013 at 12:55pm | IP Logged Quote orwell1984

Pitbull 3
 

Work under planning for future.




- caliber: 9x19 Parabbelum
- no external hammer
- firing pin and trigger safety  
- fed with 15rnd Beretta M9 magazines
- frame based on Steyr GB (welded out of two bended pieces side by side)
- straight blowback operated
- external barrel thread for silencer
- barrel threaded into the frame
- weight and width similar to Pitbull 2
- striker fully cocked (Single Action without external hammer)
- trigger guard made of duralaluminium
- this project is intent to be a kind of self-test before a more complicated one (scratch-built SIG Sauer P226/P228 clone with the trigger system modification)
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Posted: May 07 2013 at 12:10am | IP Logged Quote Mech warrior

Thank you! Glad to see you still at it brother!
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Instead of thanking I'd be glad to see any advices and replies for my questions in my MAC thread
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orwell1984
It would help if you added a link to your MAC Thread
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Fixed your link! I really like the thread the link leads too! i would offer advice, if i was more knowledgeable on them!

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Sagittarii wrote:
For those who would like a better look at the same in pdf
all credits to orwell1984

C6F56_Pit_Bull_1.pdf

74A79_Pit_Bull_2.pdf

Nice files, but they have the same pictures (all pitbull 2)

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