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Posted: August 20 2009 at 10:25pm | IP Logged Quote dcorb

I soon will have these two parts kits:

Modelo 3 in .380 caliber Mexican Trejo Semi-Auto Pistol

 

Modelo 1A in .22LR Mexican Trejo Semi-Auto Pistol


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Posted: August 20 2009 at 10:25pm | IP Logged Quote dcorb

Does anyone have any information about them?

 

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Posted: August 20 2009 at 10:29pm | IP Logged Quote trickyrick

uh... hecho in mexico? i have some old 380s, i'll look and see if they are similar.
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 7:26am | IP Logged Quote elmacgyver0

I thought they only made "zip guns"
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 1:26pm | IP Logged Quote hawcer

They look similar to the 1911 platform...The 380 kinda resembles my Star BM.

Interesting,for sure....

Reminds me of when I bought a Norinco CSI 77B parts kit. Good parts that are worthless because I may never find a frame.(import ban)

But I was thinking I could possibly make a frame, If I could find something to make a template or take measurements from.

You may be able to get away with thinning out a 1911 casting and a little machine work for the 380....or at least a good starting point as for as design goes.

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Posted: August 21 2009 at 7:20pm | IP Logged Quote NRADon

Make sure that Trejo really is semi-auto when you get it.  I once saw and fired a full auto .22 version at the submachinegun class at Lassen College.
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 9:40pm | IP Logged Quote dcorb

I was hoping to combine the slide and some of the parts to a 1911 or Walther frame blank. Any evil parts will be destroyed if present. 
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 9:44pm | IP Logged Quote NRADon

dcorb wrote:
I was hoping to combine the slide and some of the parts to a 1911 or Walther frame blank. Any evil parts will be destroyed if present. 

I have to admit, the full-auto one I shot was a wicked little "burp pistol". 

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Posted: August 21 2009 at 9:53pm | IP Logged Quote dcorb

Found some info:

Trejo Modelo 1
I think it is the smallest full-auto weapon ever made. Even though not well known in the united states it was quite successfull in Mexico, with over 16.000 pieces manufactured by Armas Trejo S.A. Zacatlan between 1952 and 1972. Trejo litterally translates into Apple in english, hence the apple logo on the side of the slide. This little Tactical Machine-Pistol is a blowback action with unlocked firing from a closed bolt. Built for bursts rather than full-auto fire since the magazine capacity is quite limiting. When introduced to the Mexican market there was no prohibition against full-auto capabilities in small calibers like the .22 Long Rifle.

The NFA of 1934 made the import to US small since the 200$ tax of class-2 firearms was far more than the original value of the trejo. The Firearms Act of 68 finally slammed the door into the U.S. (therefore also to much of rest of the world) and finally the mexican government closed down domestic production of firearms for private purchase. The Trejo was also made in semiauto only, a longer BBL model with larger capacity (11-shot) called Modelo 2 came out and also a Modelo 3 in .32auto and 9mmShort/.380acp. (Could say more about them but they were not the Trivia).

Full-auto versions of the Modelo-1 is marked Tipo-Rafaga (selective fire type) and a little Lever with a "R" marked for Rafaga. In all practical senses it is identical to a M1911 which is known to many shooters.
The rate of fire is very high, ranging from 1300-1400 rounds per minute depending on what type of ammuntion you use (higher velocity = higher rate of fire). Bursts can be shot from about three rounds up to a blistring eight bursted out and unloading the whole magazine in 0,4 seconds flat. A minus for this type of construction would be the unreliable .22LR rimfire cartridge.


Trejo Modelo 1 Machine Pistol
Caliber: .22LR
Action: Unlocked blowback, closed bolt selective fire
Rate of fire: 1300-1400rpm
Magazine: 8-shot capacity single-row
Barrel: 3,15''
Sights: Fixed Ramp front open-notch rear

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Posted: August 21 2009 at 9:57pm | IP Logged Quote dcorb

Found some pictures

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Posted: August 21 2009 at 9:59pm | IP Logged Quote dcorb

I would of never guessed they were full auto.

Maybe I can use the slides and barrels for a build.

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Posted: August 22 2009 at 6:53pm | IP Logged Quote NRADon

Don't you just love the sh*tty checkering and fit of the grip panels?
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Posted: August 22 2009 at 8:53pm | IP Logged Quote weaponeer

dcorb wrote:

I would of never guessed they were full auto.

Maybe I can use the slides and barrels for a build.

I would never have guessed either....  

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I saw a Trejo pistol in .380 at a gunshow a few years ago. It looked like a baby 1911 and was very well made. I tried to talk the owner out of it but he wouldn't turn it loose. I got the bug to get one and have been looking ever since. I finally found one in .22 and one in .380. Haven't got them in my hands yet, but they're on the way.
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Posted: August 25 2009 at 12:36pm | IP Logged Quote Inabadhood

WOW!  Those little buggers are Select-Fire!?!?!? 

That's REALLY odd! 

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Inabadhood wrote:

WOW!  Those little buggers are Select-Fire!?!?!? 

That's REALLY odd! 

SOME of them are select-fire, most were not. 

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Posted: September 07 2009 at 4:26pm | IP Logged Quote jpuga

dcorb wrote:

Does anyone have any information about them?

 

I have a spare parts  .380 kit, I  am searching for a frame to build a .380. I have a Trejo 1a semiauto. Hope to post picture so others can see.

 

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Posted: September 07 2009 at 5:04pm | IP Logged Quote dcorb

My kits arrived right before the build party and I have not really looked them over too close yet. They look a little rough.

My thought for a frame is to laminate a couple plates of flat stock to some spacer stock. Only have the idea in my head now, plan may change once I study the parts.

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